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The Name Game

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 2:09 PM


The Name Game


Pitfalls to Avoid and Tricks to Use while Naming People and Places



We've all been there. You're reading a pretty interesting piece of fantasy fiction, and a few paragraphs in you learn that the main villain's name is "Abraxas the Cruel, Lord of the Black Tower." You wince at the unoriginality, close the deviation, and move on to something more interesting. We've all been on the other side of things, too, with a detailed plot outline in hand, staring at a Word document that displays only a single line: "???? knew what he had to do--kill the president." We're sure that once we get that protagonist's name down, that perfect name, we'll be able to write the whole thing in one gush of brilliance, but all that's coming to mind are banal names like "John Everyman" or over-the-top ones like "Staff Sergeant Max Fightmaster".*

*Yes, that is his real name. He is so metal he probably scored his first headshot from the womb.

Bad names are problematic, and anguish over choosing a name can keep a writer from getting a story off the ground. So today, for the Story Planning Week hosted by CRLiterature at projecteducate, we're going to talk about naming things. I'll start with a major rule, then move on to naming characters, and wrap up with naming places. But first, an animated gif.

Gambit
X-Men taught me all I ever needed to know about naming things. And with characters like Gambit, Apocalypse, Banshee, and Stryfe (sic), it built my vocabulary, too!


The Most Important Rule of Naming Things



This one is easy. Naming the people and places in a story is far less important than actually writing the story. Spending some time pondering and selecting names is a good thing. Obsessing over minutiae (Jen or Jenny? Tom or Tim?) is a waste of your time. Even when the options are radically different (Xerxes or Steve?), it's still probably a waste of your time. The quality of the writing will trump a poor (though not atrocious) name choice, and with the miracle of Find and Replace commands, your choices aren't set in stone.


Cyclops
Not the best name choice ever. Seriously, you can see that out of uniform he shoots two beams even in this quick gif. Still an iconic comic book character.

Right now you might be thinking, "hey, ShadowedAcolyte, if it doesn't matter that much, why are you writing an article about it?" Two reasons:
:bulletred: I hear a lot of writers complain about how hard naming thing is, and
:bulletred: I read a lot of stories where things are named really, really badly

So, what can you do to get over the anxiety of naming things? As with almost everything else, the solution here is practice. Once you've named a thousand things, the process gets easier. And when you've named ten thousand, it almost stops being a process. Most of the tips below I learned while running sessions of tabletop roleplaying games, where as part of presenting worlds for the other players to adventure in, I have had to name thousands of things, often on the spot. Naming anxiety has gone out the window for me, and by the end of this article, I hope it will for you as well.

To recap, the most important rule of naming things in stories is to not obsess about naming things. Pick a name and go write.

Rogue
Rogue: possibly the best possible name for a femme fatale.


Naming People


Down to the meat of the article--writers seem to obsess about character names more than anything else. I'll start off with a general rule, discuss some naming conventions to avoid, and close this section with some tricks I use to make naming easier.

The General Rule for Naming People


Here it is: generally, it is better to stick with a recognizable name over a newly-minted one. You want your reader to remember a character's name, and this is easier with a recognizable one. This doesn't mean names should be boring, only that it's nice if they are recognizably names. As a reader, I'm going to have an easier time processing the character of Julian better than the character of Julga.

Of course, this is a general rule, not an ironclad law. Exceptions abound, especially in the sort of speculative fiction with non-human races. Often, though, even a character with an in-setting reason for having a bizarre name works better with a more familiar nickname or handle that is used frequently (looking at you, Meriodac "Merry" Brandybuck). Additionally, what passes for "recognizable" obviously varies by the reader's experiences (if you grew up speaking Mongolian, "Geser" is a perfectly valid heroic name, whereas it looks and sounds odd to an American reader). However, when multispecies or multilingual concerns are not primary, it's best to stick to recognizable names.

Jean Grey
Superheroes should probably be another noted exception to the rule. Right, Jean?


Things to Avoid When Naming People


As above, these are all generally a bad idea. There are exceptions.

:bulletred: Things that sane parents wouldn't name their children, like Lucifer. Yes, crazy people do name their children crazy things. But unless the character has renamed himself later in life, or the weird name has relevance to the story ("Gaia Freelove Smith became an accountant to defy her drugged-out, hippie parents--she prefers to be called 'G'."), avoid these.
:bulletred: Blatant misspellings (or "creative" spellings) of recognizable names: Gerami for Jeremy, Ylyzabeth for Elizabeth, Kryss for Chris. Those sorts of things aren't creative as much as annoying. While obviously some people do name their children these things, and some names do have multiple valid spellings (Sean/Shawn), it's best to stick to a normal spelling and let Elizabeth earn her unique nature with her actions, not with a Y in her name.
:bulletred: Names chosen because they "mean" something. The internet is awash in baby name sites, many of them with poorly sourced (i.e., invented) "meanings" for various names. A character's significance doesn't need to be tied up in his name--plenty of important historical figures bore names quite common in their time (think of how many American Founding Fathers were named 'John'!).
:bulletred: Names that are monstrously obvious and overdone references, like a first-man-to-do-X named Adam, a gorgeous man named Apollo, a pure woman named Mary, etc.
:bulletred: Names that abuse apostrophes for no discernable reason. Yes, I'm looking at you, Drizzt Do'Urden. In rare cases, these serve to mark sounds that don't have another phonetic equivalent, but your wise alien named Y'leth Ellae'ea isn't so much unique as highly derivative.
:bulletred: Names that are wildly different in tone and scope on characters from similar backgrounds. If your fantasy village has three human men named Andoreth the Just, Bunderly von Ivtia, and Steve Thompson, I'm going to have a hard time taking your story seriously.
:bulletred: Any of poor style choices found in this excellent journal (there is some overlap with the above), or that appear as clichés on TVTropes's list of Naming Conventions, should be avoided.

Professor X
Professor/Magneto slashfic: Still a better love story than Twilight.


Tips for Naming Characters


:bulletred: Use baby name guides. As much as they might be lying to you about the "meaning" behind a name (which is, remember, largely a waste of time), they do list a great many names, some of which you might want to use.
:bulletred: Use your memory! You can assemble names by mixing and matching names from people you've met, characters in other books or movies, or the news. Grab a newspaper (who am I kidding--open a browser and look at a newspaper's website) and scan for names. Obviously you don't want to use someone's whole name, but a cool first name from the local wedding announcement page and a cool last name from one of your old middle school teachers might go together well. When I hear an interesting name, I sometimes write it on a post-it note (or grocery receipt, or whatever's at hand) to remember to use later. Unlike a baby name guide, these have the advantage of being actual people's names, not just a list some unknown person or persons put on the internet. This works with other references from your past, like high school yearbooks.
:bulletred: Use Wikipedia creatively.  One of my most tried and true techniques for naming a group of characters from a similar background is to pick a country, pull up the list of that country's current Parliament or Congress or whatever legislative body it has, and start mixing and matching names. Need an authentic Greek name for a protagonist who is always fighting with his immigrant parents? Pop open the dryly titled List of members of the Hellenic Parliament June 2012 to present page and mix and match. You can easily create a list of authentic-sounding names for the character, his family, and their friends. Just remember not to use a real person's name verbatim. That's gauche. You can also use the Wikipedia pages titled "List of Famous People from X", but that's not as reliable because many people are famous under a pseudonym or just have descent from one place with the naming conventions of a separate place (the List of Zoroastrians includes Queen singer Freddie Mercury, who was born in Zanzibar and grew up in India but didn't really become famous under a Zoroastrian-esque name).
:bulletred: If you are going to create a weird set of names for perhaps an alien race (or a human group with a fictional language), pick a few consonant blends that are common and use those twice as frequently as other consonants, while making sure some names don't use the common ones. At the same time, pick a vowel or two and use them half as often as the remaining vowels. Those two quick rules will create a serviceable 'feel' to the fictional language without a lot of extra work. Be careful, however, of falling into the trap of the Law of Alien Names.

Wolverine
Apparently extending your claws magically generates clothing, too.


Naming Places


Naming places is both easier and harder than naming characters. It's easier because there are even fewer conventions, so it's harder to even seem uncreative, but it's harder because you have that many more options. The most common names to avoid are the ones that just boil down to state-the-obvious descriptions ("The Black Tower", "Sea of Blue") or melodramatic word + object ("River of Tears", "Devil's Reef"). Stay away from those.

One tip to give a region some coherency is to name many of the same types of things (cities, forests, etc) with the same prefix or suffix. You can see this in the real world: common American town endings are "-ville", "-boro" or "-borough", and of course "-town"/"-ton". If three of four cities in a fantasy region start with "Tar-", that implies a shared linguistic heritage, which is a nice touch. But there are always exceptions to any convention.

The following is a non-exhaustive list of how many places get their names. When naming new locations in an area, you can (and probably should) use multiple methods.
:bulletred: From the geography. Chimney Rock is so named for its appearance. So was Gran Teton.
:bulletred: From a person, either a famous one (the State of Washington) or just a local person (Jackson Hole, Wyoming). This is probably the most common source for town/city names. After all, if you build the town, you get to name it after yourself.
:bulletred: From an event. Cape Fear, on the coast of North Carolina, is named that because some sailors thought they were going to crash on it.
:bulletred: From an extinct or largely forgotten language. Argentina, despite lacking silver, is named for the Latin word for the metal (the explorers were optimistic about finding some there). Many places across the US bear Native American names (or Anglicized versions thereof).
:bulletred: From numbers. Roads aren't the only thing named with numbers (Area 51, Ward 8).
:bulletred: From mythological figures. Lots of places in England have names rooted in the Arthurian legends.
:bulletred: From other place names. New York springs to mind, but there is a town called Versailles (pronounced ver-SAILS) in Ohio.
:bulletred: From unknown or forgotten sources. Some place name etymologies are disputed, and some lack even hypothetical explanations of how they came to be called what they are called. This is quite common, and that gives you a lot of leeway when it comes to naming places.

I think it's important to note that for most people, in most situations, place names are either wildly obvious (Chimney Rock) or essentially have no meaning (Mississippi River). Yes, linguists and historians might be able to tell you why and when it was originally called that, but your average person nearby doesn't know, and doesn't mind not knowing. With that as a guide, you're fairly free to name things whatever you wish as long as you avoid odious clichés.

Storm
Storm was so cool she got another awesome name: Ororo.


Conclusion



I hope that some of the above was useful to you. Remember, the most important rule of naming is to stop worrying about naming and just write something!

Do you have any tips or tricks when it comes to naming things? Are there any trends or patterns in naming that you really hate? Please, share them below!

X-MEN
Astute students of 90s cartoons might be expecting to see Jubilee somewhere around here. Despite her cool name, Jubilee is too lame to include in this article.




For the Story Planning Week at #projecteducate hosted by #CRLiterature. Don't be afraid of naming things!
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AliceSacco Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2014
I always name characters too fast, usually it takes 30 seconds. Except rare occasions.
When I name characters, I answer just to one question: Where he/she is from?

Cities take more time (one of my city's name is Ombrone)
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alphabetsoup314 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Me, personally, I suck at coming up with inventive names and then remembering them after, emphasis on the remembering part... so I like to name my characters after other things. I find that if I can tie the character to the source of the name, it's much easier to remember. 

For me, my sources tend to be nerdy. For example, I needed a name that was slightly asian-sounding, but just 'cultureless' enough that it sounds like it came from a sci-fi where human cultures have blended. So, after giving up on common Chinese surnames, I just went to math functions: I took tangent (tan), and natural logarithm (ln, commonly pronounced 'lon') and got Tan Lon. Then I decided to take the joke further and made his middle name Theta, and made him the tenth man in his line to inherit the name; so now the poor guy's name reads in my mind as:  Tan(θ)Ln(X). :rofl:

A less math-tacular example, I needed a name that was hard for humans to pronounce. So I took the names Celestia and Luna (from MLP)...
Celestia + Luna --> Tia Lunn (for human speakers) --> Ti'ialun. 

Most of my names aren't crazy conglomerates though; I usually default to naming characters after other fictional characters, scientists, or mythological figures. A lot of the time I'll give them a placeholder name that either sticks, evolves, or completely changes. 
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014
That seems like a solid process, albeit one the risks telling your readers too much with a name. Although I'd love to read a novel where everyone was named after a famous scientist.
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alphabetsoup314 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No, a lot of the time, my names are arbitrary and have little to do with the character's personality/abilities/story in-universe; it just helps me remember who they are, because I'm likely to forget completely made-up names.

The best way to describe my thought process, is comparing it to a real-life technique for remembering people's names (though that is not where I got the idea from). With this technique, when someone is introduced to you, you tie their name and face to an image. So for example, you meet a guy named Mike. You then try to associate his face with a microphone, so that the next time you see him, you picture a microphone, and you think microphone-->mic-->Mike. The guy may have absolutely nothing to do with the recording industry, nor with activities involving sound, but you will forever associate him with microphones. It can be used for more complex names, and the example they gave was Reese Witherspoon. They then made an image of a dying plant (a withering plant) with spoons hanging from it to remember her name. 

So in my mind, if I can remember what a character is named after (or even part of the thought process), even if I gave them some arbitrary name, it's easier to recall without having to dig through folders of rough work. So, for example, I might think, "Hmm, you and your siblings have nature-themed names, and yours had something to do with mountains. The Spanish word for mountain range is... Sierra. Oh, I remember your name now." She herself doesn't have anything to do with mountains and nature, nor does it really say anything about her personality (or at least, not intentionally), but I will always think of mountains when I think of the character. Sometimes the route is more complicated (like with the names I gave before), but at least it's some way that makes sense to me. 

Sometimes though, the name has something to do with their occupation or role. For example, gardener --> herb --> Marjoram --> Marj. That's inevitable, because if I gave every character an arbitrary name, it would be hard to remember them all. Other than that, I try to avoid having the name be an indicator of personality or of things to come, mainly because I find that a little cliche (I wasn't thinking of revealing too much, although that is a very good point). Dark and broody? Name them Raven! Tragic love interest? Name them Juliet! Evil? Name them Seth!

I agree, a story where everyone is named after a scientist sounds interesting. It sounds very steampunk-ish. 
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014
If your system works for you, go for it. If you are at a risk of constantly forgetting characters' names, though, you might want to look at improving how you plan a story. There were some good articles about story planning that CRLiterature did through projecteducate, let me see if I can dig them up... projecteducate.deviantart.com/… .
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herebewonder Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
A trick I use sometimes for character names: Twitter. I just look in my feed and dozens of usable names pop up.

I usually mix and match first and last names though...otherwise I'd have characters named things like "Wil Wheaton", which is kind of a giveaway.

-c
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014
That sounds like a great idea, something like my Wikipedia trick above!
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Qihah Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
Trends or name patterns that I dislike is probably sometime emo-ish like DarkShadows, Bloodweather...something like that. :B
It's kinda annoying and outdated.
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2014
For sure. Melodramatic characters do better when the main source of drama isn't the name!
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brietta-a-m-f Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist

For my fantasy based novel, I often base my made-up civilizations closely around real ones from history. My gnomes are all very Norse/Germanic, so I created a handy list compiled from ancient Norse or Teutonic names. I keep these lists in a Word doc on my laptop for easy reference when I'm not around internet.

 

Often times, when I'm writing and I get stuck on a name (typically for places but for characters, too), instead of breaking my train of thought wracking my brain for a name, I insert and ellipsis and keep going. Once I've gotten to a stopping point, I'll come back to it and work a name in there that fits.

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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014
That's very common, I think, and a solid choice.

I might edit in something about using placeholders into the above, since that is also a common tactic.

Thanks for sharing your tips!
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brietta-a-m-f Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
:D (Big Grin) 
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2013
Some other ideas here: forum.deviantart.com/art/liter…
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memoryOfTomrrow Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Student General Artist
Good guide! I may use this in the future. I know you're probably not interested in more examples, but there is also a town in Georgia known as Rome.
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013
And Milan in Indiana (they pronounce it "My-lan").

I'm glad you like the guide!
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haravanda Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Student Artist
I use my childhood habit in naming my toys. So much when I see something I can make up a name without much problem. Visually that is.

...Or borrow people's name and mix some of it up (especially Vietnamese, wonderful language for name mixing, terrible to make westerners distinguish them without accents)
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013
How did you name your toys?
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haravanda Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Student Artist
I make it simple, like how a certain part of them spark an image in my mind. For example, golden colored bear with black eyes can, in a glimpse, remind me of a cookie or a german sherperd plush makes me think of a character on TV or comic in a military uniform. Usually it start with me asking the object/ plushie "What do you want your name to be?" and stare at it.

Sounds silly but it works for me, even in character design but it's harder if the character design isn't stable (ie. continous redraw/ change of basic feature or personnality display). Sometimes I would have to look up for a name if the name itself hold a certain signification to the plot.
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2013
Interesting! If it works, it works.
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kaisaki1342 Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you very much.
Personally I mix and match names from list that are readily available (like people who pass the board exam) in my area to get authentic Filipino names.
Though I don't know if this is all-right - I do always include one person who's name has some sort of weird origin or family convention. Like all sister having Maria as first name (which is pretty common in my area). All kids whose name are mixture of their parent (common practice here as well). I am also very fond of story behind names that I like to make fun of (is that ok?)
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013
That's a great place to look for names! Awesome.

As long as the story about the name doesn't detract from the story the character is in, you should be fine.
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Chivi-chivik Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why I never see the option/recommendation of NAME GENERATORS?
They're so helpful. I named many of my characters using only generators :D

Here's the webpage I always go: [link]
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013
I should have added links to a few (several people have brought that up). I am not the hugest fan because you get the same problem as with baby name guides--the generator is only as good as the input, and there's no guarantee that the input is good. Most of them aren't even generators as much as randomly pulling from a master list. I like to control the input better, and there are ways to do that, but explaining them would have taken up too much space in this article.

Still, thanks for the link. I'm glad that method works for you!
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Chivi-chivik Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh well, okay. :)
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Euxiom Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013
Nice tips. :nod: The note on place names and similar suffix or prefix is something I'll have to remember. I don't mind X-men or gifs in the least but I found them to be a tiny bit too distracting.. orz

(why does everyone hate Jubilee? is it her yellow coat?)
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013
Haha, I'm not usually one for gifs myself but I needed something to break up this text.

In the animated series (in the 90s), Jubilee's was pretty exclusively whiny teenager. That's why she gets such a bad rap.
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Euxiom Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013
Ahh, true :dummy:

Oh I see. I never managed to see much of that, unfortunately. So I guess in other media she's quite different.
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NinjaFoxsBuddy Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Thank everything sweet and holy that I saw this before doing anything TOO drastic xD
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013
I'm glad you found it helpful!
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NinjaFoxsBuddy Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
:D
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sevenofeleven Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013
When I was was working on my fanfiction, I had 5 chars from all over the world.
So I used google to find names for chars in different countries.

There are sites out there that list popular names for people depending on where they are from.

Instead of using Tanya or Olga for the Russian char, I use Esfir Turchin.
Had a bunch of Russian chars, used some sites to get names.

The Chinese char was called Mei Nuo.

Used the same technique for place names too.

Needed a name for a military base so I found a site with a list of US military bases. Changed the name around a bit.

Google can be pretty useful for names.
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013
It can, but you can also waste time better spent actually writing (that's why I like going right to government officials for a country, since you'll get a big group of very authentic names at once).
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sevenofeleven Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013
How do you do that?
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013
Browse wikipedia to see what the equivalent of a Congress or a Legislature is, then pull up the list of the current members of that body, then mix and match from among those names. There's an example above using the Greek body.
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sevenofeleven Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2013
Thanks for the suggestion.
This should make it easier for me.
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Celareon Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Had I been drinking while reading this, I know I would have snorted it. So props.
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013
Thanks!
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Hakkaeni Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013  Student General Artist
For fantasy names, one thing I love to do is use a glossary from an extinct language or from a not widespread one. What I do is I find a word more or less adapted to the character/organisation/city/region and then change then rewrite it to make it more easily pronounceable/rememberable. It helps at having harmonious names for a certain region and making them unusual.And if I have someone figuring out what the name means, well... :iconclapplz:

I love using Gaulish, Gaelic, Kannada and a mix of Scandinavian languages.
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013
I wouldn't consider Gaelic particularly mysterious anymore (with its global resurgence among neopagans and others), but yes, this can work (and can be fun to look up old language things). However, the idea that every character/organization/city/region/etc should have a name that traces back to an actual meaning that describes it can be a big trap--it's certainly not how things work in the real world, and it can take a lot of time that would be better spent on writing.

I will say I don't even know what Gualish would even sound like. That would certainly be obscure.
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Hakkaeni Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013  Student General Artist
It doesn't have to have an actual meaning, it's just a way for me to have something to look for. Like let's say I'm looking for the name of a city that's supposed to be a central hub of exchanges both commercial and cultural. I'd take things like "center" "central" "exchanges" "commerce" "culture" whichever words come to me quickly and try to translate them in a language. Usually I can find something suitable-ish quickly and then re-write around that.
But if I see that it takes me more than say fifteen minutes, I just use a placeholder name like [tradehubcity].

Gaelic is getting better known but, it's still obscure enough that not a lot of people would identify it.

Gaulish is a language that was spoken in western continental Europe before the "advent" of latin languages. It was spoken through France, Northern Italy, Belgium, parts of Germany and even parts of UK. You can still find traces of it in French like I think the word "renard" (fox) and it evolved in some words of ancient Irish and ancient German. It's now a pretty much completely extinct language brought back only by very rare people like linguists, but also folk-metal Swiss band Eluveitie who made an entire album written in Gaulish. //Gaulish rant off :iconmingplz:
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013
Oh, I'm aware of what Gaulish is, just I have no idea what it would sound like (or even look like written). My guess is that French is too Latinate to make Gaulish sound "French" to my ear, but that's just a guess. Still, thanks for the information!

If that naming process works for you and you don't spend too much time on it, more power to you. From what you say, it doesn't sound like you're using a place name's "meaning" too heavy-handedly, like having all the people in the city talk about how it's called Karakiam because, you know, that's an old word for "store" and people buy stuff there. *grin*
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Hakkaeni Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Student General Artist
I think the closest living language to Gaulish would be Breton (spoken in Brittany and a few other regions of western France) or a mix of Irish and German (however that would sound). Yeah, French has only traces of Gaulish, maybe like 7% of the words? Much more influences from Latin and Greek.

Yeah, actually the "meaning" doesn't have that much importance :iconmingplz: It's kind of a solo private joke, like calling the evil but hiding as friendly character something like "traitor" translated in an obscure language and knowing that only you or maybe the very rare reader who happens to speak that language know what it means. :iconiseewhatudidplz:
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2013
Sounds like you amuse yourself mightily! But the important thing is, you're not obsessing over naming, just working through your process. And I can get behind that.
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Euxiom Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013
Hey.

I enjoyed your language rant. Words are hella cool. (◕‿◕✿)
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Hakkaeni Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Student General Artist
Thank you~ :iconcblushplz: Sometimes I just start ranting and realize only later that I've written half an essay XD

But ch'yeah. Words and their etymology are so awesome. :iconcryingrainbowsplz:
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Euxiom Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013
Never has the rainbow tears face been used more appropriately. I mean seriously, we started making sounds and then decided they should be symbolized and THEN....THEN IT JUST GOT CRAZY AND WE HAD A SHITTON OF LANGUAGES. :la:

you is welcome!
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Hakkaeni Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013  Student General Artist
Every now and then I think about stuff like that, like how awesome communications are, like how despite there being a shit ton of languages around the world we roughly use the same sounds when we speak, like how all --I think-- languages followed the same evolution pattern, images first and then abstractions and then just meaningless symbols that can be reproduced by everyone and understood if you have the right key :iconsupermindblownplz:

I also think about how much our society is based on the fact that the majority of us aren't, deep down, crazy murderers with crazy murderers impulses, which means that if I, an average unnoticeable person, decided to kill a random person in a dark alley and succeeded, they'd have a loads of trouble tracking me. :iconimsotiredplz: Ahem.... :iconprussiaplz:
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Euxiom Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2013
YES. EXACTLY. :la:

oh, well. make sure you use your murdering powers for...somebody that actually would deserve it? but, be careful i mean im not involved i dont need the coppers at my door.
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LikeABoss312 Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Professor/Magneto slashfic: Still a better love story than Twilight.

Anythings a better love story than twilight...
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